What happens when two of real estate's most outspoken truth-tellers stop tiptoeing and start saying the quiet part out loud?

Buckle up. Leigh Brown and Rob Hahn dive into the conversations the industry avoids—crime, public safety, fair housing realities, failing cities, the MLS shake-up, and what it really means to be a REALTOR® in a post-settlement era.

This crossover episode from Under All Is The Land is raw, unfiltered, and guaranteed to challenge the way you think about your role, your industry, and your duty to the communities you serve.

If you care about the future of real estate—or the future of your city—this is the episode you share.

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Key Moments You Don't Want to Miss

• Why REALTORS® MUST talk about crime and how silence harms communities
• Is REALTOR® a calling or a commodity?
• The hard truth about MLS access, value, and what comes next
• What the Fair Housing Act really protects and what it doesn't
• Why advocacy has to mean more than taxes and 1031s
• How patriotism, professionalism, and community protection collide in today's market

Resources mentioned in this episode

• The Code of Ethics
• Undercover investigation reveals evidence of unequal treatment by Long Island real estate agents - Newsday
• Civil Rights Division | The Fair Housing Act

About Rob Hahn

Rob focuses on Associations, Multiple Listing Services, and Technology. With a profound love for the real estate industry, Rob has been challenging the status quo and empowering companies to operate beyond ordinary commerce.

Follow Rob

• YouTube: Under All Is The Land
• X: @robhahn

Connect with Leigh

Please subscribe to this podcast on your favorite podcast app at https://pod.link/1153262163, and never miss a beat from Leigh by visiting https://leighbrown.com. DM Leigh Brown on Instagram @ LeighThomasBrown.